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  • Sportsmen Shouldnt Receive Millions

    Fireman Or Doctor YES
    Love Peace & Harmony

  • #2
    sorry but this is such a stupid statement and comparising. The sports world is a commercial business model which is based on demand for supply. They make so much money because we are watcing matches on TV, buying tickets, buy Merch etc. A music artists the same.

    Doctors got paid by the goverment. Do they deserve a better salary? yes, I agree.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by L-Booma View Post
      sorry but this is such a stupid statement and comparising. The sports world is a commercial business model which is based on demand for supply. They make so much money because we are watcing matches on TV, buying tickets, buy Merch etc. A music artists the same.

      Doctors got paid by the goverment. Do they deserve a better salary? yes, I agree.
      Not all doctors get paid by the gov. There are private hospitals and clinics in other nations. Personally I think that there should be a limit on how much wealth a single person can have. For example your total property including money should not be more than 1000 kilos worth of gold (about 55 million euros/65million usd).

      Thanks by the way for your remix of nigga nature. Listened to it last weekend, better than any other (original) version. Thnx maat

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      • #4
        The class system shouldn't exist.
        Last edited by Proletarian; 09-06-2021, 03:29 PM.
        "The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Proletarian View Post
          The class system shouldn't exist.
          Only the working class?ya know it didnt work. Stalin says Hi.

          Would be more peace though but they tried it didnt get well.

          Corruption and EGO always be an issue. Even on some distant island mountain etc.

          Doctors do their stuff, fireman, teachers,etc. But because someone is born sith strong body and he works out shouldnt be richer than the ones who actually saves lifes and works hard just day by day for his fam.

          I aint hatin or vomplaining. Just unfair.

          Sure they should get that money but cmon..

          You tall?you can run?so fuckin what?
          Love Peace & Harmony

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Proletarian View Post
            The class system shouldn't exist.
            that would be an unrealistic world, there is no point to even try to re-organize the world in that way, and no country has or will ever succeed

            btw I'm from Russia, so you cannot convince me otherwise with your utopian "read a couple books" ideas

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            • #7
              There is a difference between money & power. Oprah has a shitload of money, but has no power.
              I can agree sportsmen (or women) don't need to make millions. Like Messi, he owns a billion at this moment. Just for kicking a ball. He's good at it, but wtf, he isn't changing the world, because he has no power.
              Rotchilds, Rockefellers & Soros have billions... AND THEY HAVE all the power. Combined with some other unknown families, they rule the planet.

              Saying there shouldn't be a class system is idiotic, and mostly said by facists & marxists. Capitalism is still the best system there is.

              Not every person has the same work ethic as the next man. That's also why the whole world isn't the same & why all the world wants to move to western countries.
              Just like equal rights only exist in western countries, just like human rights. This is also why the west is going to die between now and 50 to a 100 years. The west created it & the rest of the world is using it against them.

              Just take a look at history. Empires only exist for a few hundred years and then they fall. Happened over and over and over again.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AmAnVeL View Post
                Only the working class?ya know it didnt work. Stalin says Hi
                It didn't work because the international revolution was crushed in countries outside of Russia, which left Russia stranded.

                You chillin with Stalin? Be careful: he's not what he presents himself to be.


                Originally posted by AmAnVeL View Post
                Would be more peace though but they tried it didnt get well.
                Yes, it didn't end well because it wasn't achieved. The success of the revolution was always dependent on international involvement (Lenin & Trotsky asserted this prior to the Revolution).


                Originally posted by AmAnVeL View Post
                Corruption and EGO always be an issue. Even on some distant island mountain etc.
                Under capitalism of course; it corrupts the soul.


                Originally posted by AmAnVeL View Post
                Doctors do their stuff, fireman, teachers,etc. But because someone is born sith strong body and he works out shouldnt be richer than the ones who actually saves lifes and works hard just day by day for his fam.

                I aint hatin or vomplaining. Just unfair.
                Capitalism isn't meant to be fair.
                Last edited by Proletarian; 09-07-2021, 05:16 PM.
                "The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas".

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Filla View Post
                  that would be an unrealistic world, there is no point to even try to re-organize the world in that way, and no country has or will ever succeed.
                  I take it you believe that the Black Panthers had unrealistic ideals?


                  Originally posted by Filla View Post
                  btw I'm from Russia, so you cannot convince me otherwise with your utopian "read a couple books" ideas
                  I don't care where your from.

                  I'm from a country where capitalist economics killed 1 million people (1/8 of our population) and caused another 2 million to emigrate within a few years; almost half our population gone in a short time span. You can not convince me with your 'there is no point in trying to re-organize society' ideas. See how futile this style of argument is? lol


                  Also, Russia was actully state capitalism (during its so called 'communist years'). Opposing socialism because of the hardship that was endured by Russian people under a form of capitalism isn't logical.
                  Last edited by Proletarian; 09-07-2021, 05:18 PM.
                  "The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas".

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                    Rotchilds, Rockefellers & Soros have billions... AND THEY HAVE all the power. Combined with some other unknown families, they rule the planet.
                    Sounds like someone has been watching a lot of conspiracy theory videos on youtube. They are scapegoats for the system. They can't just do what they want: they have to play the game (i.e., capitalism) if they want to keep their power. If you remove these people, they will just be replaced by another group of people who are good at playing the game.

                    Ofc they have a lot of money and power, but you just said they have all the power, when they are subject to the rules of capitalsim. Also, people power exists.


                    Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                    Saying there shouldn't be a class system is idiotic, and mostly said by facists & marxists. Capitalism is still the best system there is.
                    Yes, I am a Marxist, but there's nothing idiotic about challenging a system that produces inequalities in life expectancy (health and suicide), education, murder, drug abuse etc.

                    Capitalism's markets are also responsible for climate change, wars, AIDs etc., and current data suggests they are also responsible for COVID-19. Accepting a system that produces these problems is idiotic.


                    Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                    Not every person has the same work ethic as the next man. That's also why the whole world isn't the same & why all the world wants to move to western countries.
                    You're saying that the west is rich because people there have a better work ethic? Nothing to do with imperialism and exploiting other countries for their resources?

                    Also, can you explain your 'work ethic thesis' by looking at inequalities within countries? Rich people have rich children because they are given a head start in the rat race, not because of a better work ethic.


                    Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                    Just like equal rights only exist in western countries, just like human rights. This is also why the west is going to die between now and 50 to a 100 years. The west created it & the rest of the world is using it against them.

                    Just take a look at history. Empires only exist for a few hundred years and then they fall. Happened over and over and over again.
                    Human rights are responsible for the fall of every civilization in history, and it's happening to us now? You just made me chuckle.
                    Last edited by Proletarian; 09-07-2021, 02:39 PM.
                    "The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas".

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                    • #11
                      Tha Pawn and da King fall in the same grave at yhe end

                      The Elite... how much is how much?for what?homie youll die

                      Like an average Joe can u take the riches in the afterlife?

                      Makes no fckn Sense at all.Money Power.

                      Its betta to cry in the lambo than in an opel dem seh huh?
                      Love Peace & Harmony

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                        There is a difference between money & power. Oprah has a shitload of money, but has no power.
                        I can agree sportsmen (or women) don't need to make millions. Like Messi, he owns a billion at this moment. Just for kicking a ball. He's good at it, but wtf, he isn't changing the world, because he has no power.
                        Rotchilds, Rockefellers & Soros have billions... AND THEY HAVE all the power. Combined with some other unknown families, they rule the planet.

                        Saying there shouldn't be a class system is idiotic, and mostly said by facists & marxists. Capitalism is still the best system there is.

                        Not every person has the same work ethic as the next man. That's also why the whole world isn't the same & why all the world wants to move to western countries.
                        Just like equal rights only exist in western countries, just like human rights. This is also why the west is going to die between now and 50 to a 100 years. The west created it & the rest of the world is using it against them.

                        Just take a look at history. Empires only exist for a few hundred years and then they fall. Happened over and over and over again.
                        The west is still enjoying its wealth and power from colonialism and is still building on that wealth. You think the bank of the Netherlands got their gold from mines in groningen? The west stole from people and killed people all over the world. Other big empires in history have also had power over the majority of the world but none have been so greedy as the west. Only the japanese and the mongols for a short period.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muzaliny View Post
                          The west is still enjoying its wealth and power from colonialism and is still building on that wealth. You think the bank of the Netherlands got their gold from mines in groningen? The west stole from people and killed people all over the world. Other big empires in history have also had power over the majority of the world but none have been so greedy as the west. Only the japanese and the mongols for a short period.
                          Bla bla bla. Fuck your anti western bullshit. The west is greedy, right... Smh. That's why we created human rights, that's why we take in more people than any other country on this planet so they can make a have a better life. Other empires were way worse then the west. Maybe you should read a book. Where are the inca's? Where are Mayans? etc etc. lol. Btw, the Arab world did horrific things before the west even set food on African soil. And to this day they still have slavery in Arab countries, just like in African countries.

                          Btw, the Netherlands only got 5% of it's wealth from slavery, ever heard of the VOC, we traded in all kind of goods.

                          Also, before the west/capitalism took the worlds stage, only 8 to 10% of the world were living will. Then the west/capitalism came and now over 50% of the worlds population have higher living standards.

                          But keep hating and crying about something myself & you never had a hand in or are even responsible for.

                          Good day sir... lol.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                            Bla bla bla. Fuck your anti western bullshit. The west is greedy, right... Smh. That's why we created human rights...
                            Working class people fought and died for those rights. they were not offered out of the goodness of the ruling class' hearts.


                            Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                            Also, before the west/capitalism took the worlds stage, only 8 to 10% of the world were living will. Then the west/capitalism came and now over 50% of the worlds population have higher living standards.
                            Human labour created the wealth (i.e., the working class created the wealth), not capitalism.

                            The capitalists reaped most of the wealth that was created by the working class; the theft continues and you continue trying to justify it.
                            Last edited by Proletarian; 09-07-2021, 03:56 PM.
                            "The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas".

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 2psah View Post
                              Bla bla bla. Fuck your anti western bullshit. The west is greedy, right... Smh. That's why we created human rights, that's why we take in more people than any other country on this planet so they can make a have a better life. Other empires were way worse then the west. Maybe you should read a book. Where are the inca's? Where are Mayans? etc etc. lol. Btw, the Arab world did horrific things before the west even set food on African soil. And to this day they still have slavery in Arab countries, just like in African countries.

                              Btw, the Netherlands only got 5% of it's wealth from slavery, ever heard of the VOC, we traded in all kind of goods.

                              Also, before the west/capitalism took the worlds stage, only 8 to 10% of the world were living will. Then the west/capitalism came and now over 50% of the worlds population have higher living standards.

                              But keep hating and crying about something myself & you never had a hand in or are even responsible for.

                              Good day sir... lol.
                              Creatrd human rights yeah right go study history you got your rights from the MIDDLE EAST. Go read about the Hamurabi code and shit. You know nothing, human rights have always been there. Even the egyptians had some human rights. Read about the Inca's and their social structure. Next time when you try to sound smart, recheck the tiny bit of knowledge you claim to have smfh.

                              The voc traded in all kind of goods including slaves from every colony they had. Thats why suriname is so diverse with hindoes, africans, jews, muslims. Netherlands and all other nations with colonial history would be nowhere today if they had no rifles. Which also is not a western invention. The west would be nowhere today if the arab muslims had not invaded spain and built universities.
                              Last edited by muzaliny; 09-08-2021, 01:23 PM.

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