Moderating offensive language

[Tupac96_]

[MENTION=17578]Tupac96 This thread has you're name written all over it. lol.

Your* [MENTION=15774]Tupac96_

[2psah]

[MENTION=17212]tupac96 This thread has you're name written all over it. lol.

[sarahconnor618]

free speech dont need moderation imo
let the kids learn young and educate them if u dont want them using certain words
don't censor cuz they'll want to use it more
kids smart they wanna use them taboo words, if nothing is taboo then what's the fun of it?

[Husxle]

I'm a free speech absolutist. Big tech censorship offends me. Let's not do it to ourselves. Counter bad speech with better speech. May I recommend an old school gem called Freedom of Speech by Ice-T.

[Intro]
A-yo Ice, man. I'm working on this term paper for college. What's the First Amendment?

[Verse 1]
Freedom of Speech, that's some motherfuckin' bullshit
You say the wrong thing, they'll lock your ass up quick
The FCC says "Profanity - No Airplay"?
They can suck my dick while I take a shit all day
Think I give a fuck about some silly bitch named Gore?
Yo PMRC, here we go, raw
Yo Tip, what's the matter? You ain't gettin' no dick?
You're bitchin' about rock'n'roll, that's censorship, dumb bitch
The Constitution says we all got a right to speak
Say what we want Tip, your argument is weak
Censor records, TV, school books too
And who decides what's right to hear? You?
Hey PMRC, you stupid fuckin' assholes
The sticker on the record is what makes 'em sell gold
Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots
The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get

[Verse 2]
[You have the right to remain silent]
Fuck that right! I want the right to talk
I want the right to speak, I want the right to walk
Where I wanna, yell and I'm gonna
Tell and rebel every time I'm on a
Microphone on the stage cold illin'
The knowledge I drop will be heard by millions
We ain't the problems, we ain't the villains
It's the suckers deprivin' the truth from our children
You can't hide the fact, Jack
There's violence in the streets every day, any fool can recognise that
But you try to lie and lie
And say America's some motherfuckin' apple pie
Yo, you gotta be high to believe that
You're gonna change the world by a sticker on a record sleeve
Cos once you take away my right to speak
Everybody in the world's up shit creek

[Verse 3]
Let me tell you about down south
Where a motherfucker might as well not even have a mouth
Columbus, Georgia, said they'd lock me up
If I got on the stage in my show and said "Fuck"
So I thought for a minute and said "No
I wasn't even gonna do a damned show"
Cos for me to change my words from my rhymes
Is never gonna happen cos there's no sell outs on mine
But I vowed to get those motherfuckers one day
They even arrested Bobby Brown and Cool J
Yo, they got their's comin', cos I'm mad and I'm gunnin'
Homeboys, and there's no runnin'
I'm gonna tell you how I feel about you
No bull, no lies, no slack, just straight fact
Columbus, Georgia, you can suck my dick
You ain't nothin' but a piece of fuckin' shit on the damned map

[Verse 4]
Freedom of Speech, let 'em take it from me
Next they'll take it from you, then what you gonna do?
Let 'em censor books, let 'em censor art
PMRC, this is where the witch hunt starts
You'll censor what we see, we read, we hear, we learn
The books will burn
You better think it out
We should be able to say anything, our lungs were meant to shout
Say what we feel, yell out what's real
Even though it may not bring mass appeal
Your opinion is yours, my opinion is mine
If you don't like what I'm sayin'? Fine
But don't close it, always keep an open mind
A man who fails to listen is blind
We only got one right left in the world today
Let me have it or throw The Constitution away

[Outro: Jello Biafra]
What they're trying to do with radio, with this, uh, McCarran-Walter Act and a lot of other ways, is start by saying that they're protecting the public from wicked rock bands, or girlie magazines, or whatever. But, if you follow the chain of dominoes that falls down what they're really trying to do is shut off our access to information itself

If they can't do it by law they know there's other ways to do it

Word.

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[jmtalboo]

I'm a free speech absolutist. Big tech censorship offends me. Let's not do it to ourselves. Counter bad speech with better speech. May I recommend an old school gem called Freedom of Speech by Ice-T.

[Intro]
A-yo Ice, man. I'm working on this term paper for college. What's the First Amendment?

[Verse 1]
Freedom of Speech, that's some motherfuckin' bullshit
You say the wrong thing, they'll lock your ass up quick
The FCC says "Profanity - No Airplay"?
They can suck my dick while I take a shit all day
Think I give a fuck about some silly bitch named Gore?
Yo PMRC, here we go, raw
Yo Tip, what's the matter? You ain't gettin' no dick?
You're bitchin' about rock'n'roll, that's censorship, dumb bitch
The Constitution says we all got a right to speak
Say what we want Tip, your argument is weak
Censor records, TV, school books too
And who decides what's right to hear? You?
Hey PMRC, you stupid fuckin' assholes
The sticker on the record is what makes 'em sell gold
Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots
The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get

[Verse 2]
[You have the right to remain silent]
Fuck that right! I want the right to talk
I want the right to speak, I want the right to walk
Where I wanna, yell and I'm gonna
Tell and rebel every time I'm on a
Microphone on the stage cold illin'
The knowledge I drop will be heard by millions
We ain't the problems, we ain't the villains
It's the suckers deprivin' the truth from our children
You can't hide the fact, Jack
There's violence in the streets every day, any fool can recognise that
But you try to lie and lie
And say America's some motherfuckin' apple pie
Yo, you gotta be high to believe that
You're gonna change the world by a sticker on a record sleeve
Cos once you take away my right to speak
Everybody in the world's up shit creek

[Verse 3]
Let me tell you about down south
Where a motherfucker might as well not even have a mouth
Columbus, Georgia, said they'd lock me up
If I got on the stage in my show and said "Fuck"
So I thought for a minute and said "No
I wasn't even gonna do a damned show"
Cos for me to change my words from my rhymes
Is never gonna happen cos there's no sell outs on mine
But I vowed to get those motherfuckers one day
They even arrested Bobby Brown and Cool J
Yo, they got their's comin', cos I'm mad and I'm gunnin'
Homeboys, and there's no runnin'
I'm gonna tell you how I feel about you
No bull, no lies, no slack, just straight fact
Columbus, Georgia, you can suck my dick
You ain't nothin' but a piece of fuckin' shit on the damned map

[Verse 4]
Freedom of Speech, let 'em take it from me
Next they'll take it from you, then what you gonna do?
Let 'em censor books, let 'em censor art
PMRC, this is where the witch hunt starts
You'll censor what we see, we read, we hear, we learn
The books will burn
You better think it out
We should be able to say anything, our lungs were meant to shout
Say what we feel, yell out what's real
Even though it may not bring mass appeal
Your opinion is yours, my opinion is mine
If you don't like what I'm sayin'? Fine
But don't close it, always keep an open mind
A man who fails to listen is blind
We only got one right left in the world today
Let me have it or throw The Constitution away

[Outro: Jello Biafra]
What they're trying to do with radio, with this, uh, McCarran-Walter Act and a lot of other ways, is start by saying that they're protecting the public from wicked rock bands, or girlie magazines, or whatever. But, if you follow the chain of dominoes that falls down what they're really trying to do is shut off our access to information itself

If they can't do it by law they know there's other ways to do it

[Proletarian]

Source me one article or book.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8cc2/9bd350c09e8e0722bccfb19314fb9a18acce.pdf?_ga=2.76251154.668993907.1594984149-1047644796.1594984149

This one should interest you: you like psychology, and it is a sort of blend between psychology and sociology.

It is a qualitative study: most of the qualitative data comes from very young school children, and the rest from older school children and parents.

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Although the above article is not about social gradients, keep in mind while reading it that there is a strong social gradient in educational attainment (like most other things):

[RoyalPurple]

We xould simply simply censor the bad words like other msg boards. why dont yall do that?

[Preach]

Yes I have. You obviously haven't understood (or you've ignored) what I said. And what I said came from books and peer reviewed articles, not https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/. So again, nice straw man.

Source me one article or book.

[Proletarian]

You didn't engage with my words so much as you've been linking to a website about how everything I think is a phallacy... You haven't offered any alternate discourses of action or interpretation

Yes I have. You obviously haven't understood (or you've ignored) what I said. And what I said came from books and peer reviewed articles, not https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/. So again, nice straw man.

I can agree to move on for sure. Just wanna make you look real bad...

So, you claim to have some weird agenda other than having a discussion... I kind of got the feeling already to be honest; that's why I decided to stop trying to have a discussion with you.

I can see that you're trying hard to make me look bad. Every post you have made since I asked you to agree to disagree has been full of logical fallacies that aim to undermine my views. I have stopped trying to point them all out: there are too many to count.

Maybe some brain dead people will read your crap and think you got a point, which will allow you to succeed in your agenda. I really don't care.

Whenever there's a meme about forum social justice people, it's actually people like you it's about.

Lol, says the guy who has been crying on this forum for weeks about someone using the word nigga.


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I can see that you're the type of person who always wants the last word. Well, have it. I tried to end this in a friendly manner by asking you to agree to disagree, but you clearly don't want that.

I wish you the best and hope you get well: you're obviously miserable.

[Preach]

I'm telling you that it is endorsed by colleges/universities, while wiki is not regarded as a credible source of information. Nothing controversial here...

I thought you suggested that you don't know what is considered acceptable in 'academic circles'.

I already did in this thread, but you ignore what I have said and go on rants where you make countless logical fallacies that allow you to attack my arguments without actually engaging with them.

Unlike me, you haven't engaged with what I have said. You don't know how to have a discussion.

Silly me, choosing to try have an actual discussion with you, by engaging with your words.

I am not going to continue trying to discuss these topics with you.

Lol, you will be waiting a long time.

Can you not just agree to disagree, and move on?.

Jesus christ, with this format already. I know you think you're being precise or something when you do it like that, but you're actually just cluttering up the whole conversation. You don't need to respond to individual sentences. That's not how we communicate. I said it before, we don't need to know every little thought and emotion you have about everything. Get to the point.

I don't know what's accepted in academic circles, and I don't even know what that fucking means. Listen, the point with the phallacies is that if you want to think intellectually, you need to understand them. But to throw them out in a discussion like "Ah! You used a phallacy there!" Well maybe I did, or maybe I didn't. That's a discussion in and of itself, and having sixteen discussions within one discussion isn't productive. Something isn't a phallacy just because you say it's a phallacy. You are not God, you don't know my every intention, you can't read minds, and some times people misuse words. Especially me because this is a secondary language. So when you constantly stop a debate to call "Phallacy!" between every argument you make, you come off as a moron. None of what I said was a phallacy in my estimation.

You didn't engage with my words so much as you've been linking to a website about how everything I think is a phallacy. That's not engagement, that's wack antics. You haven't said anything of substance, just merely poked at anything I said. You haven't offered any alternate discourses of action or interpretation, just merely critiqued mine. Doesn't take a genius to do that, especially when your main critique is just throwing a link to a website. I'm sure I could go in there, read something about a phallacy and use that information against you if I could be fucked in the first place. I saw that website years and years ago myself. I get what a phallacy is. I'm 34. Let's not play this game.

I can agree to move on for sure. Just wanna make you look real bad for spending all that time being an "intellectual" and then backing out when you actually have to make good on your claims and say something that's actually intellectual. Your whole discourse in this thread is a cliche that i've seen a thousant times before. Whenever there's a meme about forum social justice people, it's actually people like you it's about. I can't believe how much time you must have spent, and then all of a sudden, you just can't believe that I can't move on. What a fuckin phony.

[Proletarian]

Well, the website may be acknowledged by academic circles, I don't know, I'm not a professor.

I'm telling you that it is endorsed by colleges/universities, while wiki is not regarded as a credible source of information. Nothing controversial here...

You certaintly don't follow academic principles in putting forth your viewpoints...

I thought you suggested that you don't know what is considered acceptable in 'academic circles'.

I would still love for you to actually say something. Like, give one example of what a better solution than a penal system would be.

I already did in this thread, but you ignore what I have said and go on rants where you make countless logical fallacies that allow you to attack my arguments without actually engaging with them.

Unlike me, you haven't engaged with what I have said. You don't know how to have a discussion.

It would take you shorter time than all the stuff you choose to do.

Silly me, choosing to try have an actual discussion with you, by engaging with your words.

... just tell me what you think the system should be, so we can discuss your actual idea, and not the idea of your idea. You apparently have some truth locked away in your mind that fuels your hatred for the system that's already in place. Unlock it so we can actually talk. That would be meaningful discussion. If you said what you actually think, instead of telling me all the things that are wrong with what I think.

I am not going to continue trying to discuss these topics with you.

Give me one example that lends credence to bottom-up socialism. Support your viewpoints with one single thing that isn't just accusing me of logical phallacies. I dare you, and I'll wait.,,

Lol, you will be waiting a long time.

Can you not just agree to disagree, and move on?.

[BayAreasFinest]

That shouldn't be the right answer though. It's pure racism to have words that can only be said if your skin pigmentation is the correct one.

2 wrongs dont make a right lol

[Preach]

Well, the website may be acknowledged by academic circles, I don't know, I'm not a professor. You certaintly don't follow academic principles in putting forth your viewpoints so I'll take it with a bit of salt coming from you. I would still love for you to actually say something. Like, give one example of what a better solution than a penal system would be. Take two paragraphs to write out a quick explanation for what you see inside your head that I'm too unintelligent to fathom. You clearly have no problems synthesizing text. It would take you shorter time than all the stuff you choose to do. Even just the formatting of pasting the [QUOTE] tags around to make it appear like what you did would take longer than if you just tell me what you think the system should be, so we can discuss your actual idea, and not the idea of your idea. You apparently have some truth locked away in your mind that fuels your hatred for the system that's already in place. Unlock it so we can actually talk. That would be meaningful discussion. If you said what you actually think, instead of telling me all the things that are wrong with what I think. Give me one example that lends credence to bottom-up socialism. Support your viewpoints with one single thing that isn't just accusing me of logical phallacies. I dare you, and I'll wait.,,

[Proletarian]

Oh jesus fucking christ, I just realized you have a whole other post. You're trying to like discuss everything at once. I didn't sign up for this at all lmao.

You clearly think you're right, and you clearly are so much more knowledgable than me, you have demonstrated that well by linking to wikis a million times while at the same time putting me down for relying on a wiki quote. You're all over the place. You're one of those people that love to argue on forums. You go on and start all kinds of new discussions about all kinds of other topics from single sentences I wrote, as if I'm trying to hash out everything that ever was with you in this thread. I just wanted to say that I think it's fucked up that we have a white dude going around saying "nigga" in threads and getting away with it. I've said mine, and you definitely said yours, and I totally disagree with everything you stand for. It's all cool, we don't have to murder one another unless there's a revolution, and maybe we'll be fine even then. But I totally will never agree with your position. Because I'm too dumb and not smart like you. And obviously, being a capitalistic democrat just sidelines me completely. I'm hopeless! Hilarious that we get to this over disagreement of what constitutes encouragement. A person like you is the exact kind of person I look to for answers to moral questions. A person that within a few posts demeans another person completely. This is where Pac would say "You need to get off my dick". I used to be like you like ten years ago so I'm not gonna hate too much but you need to look at yourself lol.

Lol. I think it's time that we agree to disagree.

fyi: I linked you to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/, not a wiki. Unlike wiki, it is recognised by academic institutions, for obvious reasons.

[Slut]

This has turned Into a full on debate lol. Basically if you're white don't say the n word.

Mods please close the topic now lol

That shouldn't be the right answer though. It's pure racism to have words that can only be said if your skin pigmentation is the correct one.